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The Sith are kind of inherently edgy, but that doesn't mean that all the Sith are edgy to the same degree. So, time to rate them by how much they exemplify the Sith trait of edginess. For this I will be using my very scientific Edge Factor metric. So let's get started:

Darth Sidious: 6/10. Not a maximally edgelord aesthetic. Spends much of his life pretending to be an inoccuous good guy, which is diabolical but not edgy. Also by the time his aesthetic becomes more edgy, he's well established as an authority figure, which is not a particularly edgy role. Edgelords are more about tragic rebellion than ruling: so in this respect Sidious is a victim of his own success. All of *his* rebellions were successful, which *is* tragic, but not for him.

Darth Tyrannus: 4/10. Look, cut him some slack, he's not used to this Sith stuff. Still, he does have that tragic rebellion thing going for him re: the Jedi and Yoda.

Darth Plagueis: 5/10. Leave him alone, he just wants to do his evil science. Scalpels are edgy, right? Anyway surely he can just delegate the edginess to his apprentice? He wants to get back to his experiments. Little too much authority for the necessary rebelliousness, and takes *forever* to rebel against Tenebrous, though he does try to (unsuccessfully) end the rule of two.

Darth Maul: 10/10. Someone understood the assignment. Classy all black attire. Single earring. Double-bladed lightsaber. Rebels against Sidious multiple times, but never vanquishes him. Dies tragically trying to get revenge. Maximum edge.

Darth Vader: 8/10. Solid edge aesthetic and history of tragic rebellion, but gets points deducted for position of authority in the Empire.

Darth Bane: 8/10. A little too successful so gets a deduction for that, but the aesthetic and rebellion are *off the charts*. Guy rebelled against his father, the Jedi, *and* the Sith. Not to mention the face tattoos and invincibility beetles have incredible edge energy.

Darth Zannah: 8/10. Again, too successful for maximum edge, but solid aesthetic with the face tattoos, plenty of rebellion, and a tragic willingness to sacrifice her closest relative for her ambitions all makes her Edge Factor competitive.
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How many gigawatts do you think unlimited power produces? Can Palpatine's force lightning be used to operate a power plant? Could you plug him into a spaceship and use him as a battery?
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My favorite chapters for Heart of Shadow are chapters 20 and 21 (the last I've written so far). They are both kind of 'setting up' chapters for their respective subplots, but are also introductions for longer plot threads that I plan to explore throughout the story. Chapter 20 is focused on Palpatine whereas chapter 21 is focused on Plagueis, though they both still cross over into each other's stories a bit here.

My approach to stories is that I don't write 'boring parts'. If a part is boring to me I simply briefly mention it (if necessary) and move on. While there are parts I particularly look forward to getting to in my stories, I feel like a lot of the fun of that is the journey and being focused on the destination too much can hamper good writing.

And of course, not all writing is about enjoyment per se--some things are about catharthis. But catharsis shouldn't be boring either, and chances are if the author is bored, the reader quite likely will be as well. So I think the author's experience in writing a story actually also can have a lot of impact on the reader's experience as well. Though in my experience authors can also be a lot harsher on themselves about certain things than readers tend to be.

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Just re-read the last chapter I've written so far for my Heart of Shadow fic and had a lot of fun reading it. It's Plagueis just being Plagueis (or rather, Hego Damask), and Dooku and Qui-Gon affectionately bickering with each other and not so affectionately bickering with Plagueis.

I love the secret identity aspect of the Sith. It's so fun to play around with that kind of character, and think about how the different facets of their personality, even the ones that are pure artifice, bleed into each other. A person is not their mask, but the kinds of masks a person chooses does say something about them. I actually think Plagueis wears two masks--the mask he shows the world, of a mundane businessman, and the mask he presents to Palpatine and himself, the mask of someone who both desires power and has the wisdom necessary to obtain it. Which is to say, the mask of the dutiful Sith Lord.

I don't think Plagueis, and that includes canon Plagueis, is very good at, or particularly motivated by, the things that are supposed to motivate a 'good' Sith Lord. Which is not to say that I think he doesn't want power or the destruction of the Jedi, because I think he wants both of those things. It's not to say that I think canon Plagueis can't be as cold as the frozen world he grew up on. But I think what Plagueis wants most is the personal freedom to pursue knowledge for the sake of knowledge, and companionship. 

He was slow to kill his own Master and he wanted to rule over the galaxy for eternity with Sidious. If that isn't the essence of 'best friends forever' (forever!) I don't know what is. And of course he botched that up real good because he also never properly learned how to respect someone rather than try to dominate them. Like Sidious would never have accepted that scenario and Plagueis was a fool to think he would. Like thinking that a man that murdered his own father because he resented the authority that was exerted over him was ever ever ever going to accept a situation where someone else could exert power over him for infinity forever is just the height of hubris, but that's part of what I love about Plagueis so much.

And I also love that for Plagueis political power and the destruction of the Jedi are just kind of secondary to what he really cares about, which are his terrible little experiments. Love that the Darth Plagueis novel recontextualizes Palpatine saying that Plagueis could save the ones he cared about from dying into meaning that he could bring his science experiments back to life.

And I love getting to examine the relationship between Dooku and Qui-Gon in my story when Dooku was still a Jedi. Tales of the Jedi was just so boring in how it portrayed Dooku (also in how it portrayed Mace Windu, but that probably deserves its own essay) and particularly his relationship to Qui-Gon. Like he's practically a Sith already in that cartoon. There's no attempt to show, like, any actual significant shift in who he is as a person in his transition from Jedi to Sith. Anyway when I was writing this chapter, I had a lot of fun showing Dooku and Qui-Gon's dynamic with each other, how they're both similarly stubborn but also their very different approaches to problems and to life in general.

Anyway, it was fun to reread the chapter and think about all these characters again.

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It gives me great anusement to think that Palpatine didn't join the Sith in STEM club until relatively late in his life so his dynamic with Plagueis would have been something like this:

Plagueis: I will teach you the forbidden knowledge and we can commit atrocities together with science!

Palpatine: I'm totally onboard with the atrocities part but does it really have to involve so many equations?

Plagueis: Atrocities calculus and chemistry are not electives.

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(First published Mar 21, 2018 for Alien April)

Summary:
       

Plagueis and Palpatine lose their tiny Sith Apprentice during a vacation to Yavin IV, and now must search for him.

                 

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This is my first time writing a gift fic, so I hope that it is an acceptable one.  Just something I came up with that lives in its own little AU.  At 4,223 words, this is the shortest fanfic I've ever posted.  This is a complete short story with one goal:  finding a very tiny Maul.

                 

"How could he have vanished so quickly?!” Plagueis exclaimed in dismay.
 
 "He's got to be somewhere," Palpatine said, looking behind a tree.  "Why are children so small?!"
 
 Plagueis pulled up some scrub on the forest ground.  "I thought you were watching him!"
 
 "I was!  I looked away for three seconds and he somehow disappeared!"

"Maybe this is a manifestation of his latent Force powers," Plagueis said.  “Though enhanced speed does not usually manifest this early…”
 
"Maul," Palpatine called out in a singsong tone.  "I have this whole cake I made just for you! It's full of sugar and incredibly unhealthy!"
 

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I love that Sith clothing is both stylish and practical.  Black looks great AND it hides the bloodstains.
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We Sith are an unseen opposition, Tenebrous had told his young apprentice. A phantom menace. Where the Sith once wore armor, we now wear cloaks. But the Force works through us all the more powerfully in our invisibility. For the present, the more covert we remain, the more influence we can have. Our revenge will be achieved not through subjugation but by contagion.

--from the Darth Plagueis novel by James Luceno

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So, I just wanted to write down some thoughts I had relating to this brief passage in the Darth Plagueis novel:

Years would pass before Nome found Hego's mother, whom he had conscripted not as an apprentice-for she wasn't strong enough in the Force--but as a disciple...

I have a headcanon about Plagueis's mother, which is that she wasn't actually weak in the Force.  The Sith are just always trying to get the most powerful Force users they can find, so Tenebrous was just like 'what if apprentice like this one But Even More Powerful' and he was also  just specifically inclined to go the Build-A-Sith route.   So when he saw an opportunity he took it.  And that's why he had Plagueis created.   Because the Sith are just like that.  But if sadly unnamed mother muun was really that weak in the Force, I don't think she would have been accepted as any kind of Sith, apprentice or not, to begin with.  If we look at the sheer number of apprentice candidates Venemis had stored on his computer (whom Plagueis subsequently offed), it seems that the Sith have their ways of finding other powerful Force users even when they're not Jedi.  This makes sense because otherwise they'd have trouble keeping their Limited Edition Baneite Sith line going, especially seeing as since most of them actually don't appear to be fallen Jedi, so they must be finding these non-Jedi Force users somehow.

The Sith probably also have a higher cutoff than the Jedi for what they consider 'not very powerful' since there are so few of them so every individual is kind of expected to be ridiculously powerful.  And if we look at Palpatine, who ended up choosing a Jedi who was also The Most Powerful Force User Alive for his apprentice, we notice that in canon he had little interest in turning Obi-Wan, who was considered quite powerful as Jedi went (in contrast to Dooku, who also had clear personal reasons for his preference).

Which brings me to my headcanon that Plagueis's mother was about as powerful as Obi-Wan Kenobi.  Of course I have no textual evidence for this, but there's also nothing in the text that explicitly disproves it, and as I've explained above, a lot of reasons to think that this is also not inconsistent with the canon either.

I might end up using this idea in one or more of my stories in some way, so I wanted to write it down.  I also don't think it's very spoilery, so I'm not particularly averse to revealing it in advance.
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I have finished the 20th Chapter of Heart of Shadow, my Palpatine redemption fic Darth Plagueis novel AU!

Rating: Teen

Chapter Title: The Discreet Charms of Domesticity

Chapter Summary: Palpatine discusses real estate with Nightsisters and is commed by Plagueis.  Palpatine visits a caf shop, but he isn't there for the caf.

AO3 Link:  https://archiveofourown.org/works/10944309/chapters/86990968

FFNET Link: https://m.fanfiction.net/s/12494509/20/

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This is, I feel, a truly quality enemies-to-lovers pairing. 

Please allow me to explain.

See, Plagueis hates the midichlorians because he feels like they're in the way of him directly accessing the Force and utilizing his full abilities.  So he's like 'listen up, you little parasites, I'm going to destroy you and obtain unlimited power muahahaha' but of course he has to research them to do so.

So he gets all his fancy little microscopes and gazes at his tiny foes for hours on end and scribbles out countless little sketches of them and fills datapads with notes on them.

And prints out full-color photographs of them, which he lies awake all night with on his pillow while muttering 'my nemeses'. 

What more could one want?

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I've long interpreted Palpatine and Dooku as having a fundamental disagreement over who would be a better choice as a Sith Apprentice: Anakin or Obi-Wan.  I think Palpatine was dead-set on getting Anakin as his apprentice whereas Dooku felt Obi-Wan would be the better choice.

I think there's something in canon (though I don't know for sure) where it implies that Dooku thinks this is because Anakin losing his arm to him would make him a 'lesser' Force-wielder somehow.  But I don't think that was really his reasoning.  If he did express such a sentiment, either externally or internally, I rather think it was more of an excuse than anything else.  I think he always viewed Obi-Wan as the best and most obvious choice.

I think it's because Obi-Wan was Dooku's grandpadawan, and because Dooku thought he was more sensible and would cause fewer problems in the long run.  Rather than Anakin's arm loss causing Dooku to reassess him, I think Dooku cut off Anakin's arm because he did not think him suitable to be a Sith, and wanted to use Anakin's failure in the duel as proof that he was too impulsive.  I can't help but notice that he repelled Obi-Wan just as easily but took care not to slice any of his appendages off.  I also can't help but hypothesize that Palpatine explicitly told Dooku not to kill Anakin, and that he may have even been irritated about him slicing his future apprentice's arm off.  Either that or Dooku was worried that killing Anakin outright there would alienate Obi-Wan too much.   

I think Dooku either envisioned Obi-Wan replacing him as Palpatine's Sith apprentice, or perhaps more optimistically, Obi-Wan becoming his Sith apprentice and the two of them defeating Palpatine together (which was perhaps his hope in Attack of the Clones, where he so helpfully alluded to where Obi-Wan might find Sidious).

Meanwhile I think Palpatine doesn't think there's any question that Anakin is the better choice to be a Sith.  There's the matter of Anakin's extremely high Force potential, but I think his impulsiveness was something Palpatine also viewed as an advantage rather than a disadvantage.  Because I think Palpatine never envisioned his apprentice as leading or becoming master.  So he wanted someone who he thought he would be able to better control.  There may also have been an aspect of not wanting his previous efforts to have been for nothing, as my impression is that this had been something he'd planned on from the moment he first met Anakin.  At the same time, I also think that the very personality traits that Dooku viewed as making Obi-Wan a good potential successor, were the same ones that Palpatine viewed as a detriment to him being his apprentice.  Also, I think Palpatine just thought Obi-Wan was boring compared to Anakin (which is an interpretation I've put in my Cut Strings fic).

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One thing I wonder about is whether Maul's decision to discard his role as a Sith was an act of defiance towards Palpatine or an act of acquiescence.

According to The Clone Wars, Maul pretty clearly considered himself a Sith before his encounter with Palpatine.  He even tells Savage that they are not brothers, but that he is the master and Savage the apprentice.  However, by the time he appears again in Rebels, he says he's not Darth Maul, just Maul.  So this makes him one of the very few who ever reject their role as a Sith (and even moreso, one of the few who don't die as a result of that rejection).

This could certainly be due to Maul deciding that following the teachings of the Sith will not bring him what he really wants.  But it could also be an act of obedience: perhaps when Palpatine told him he was no longer his Apprentice, Maul took that to mean he could no longer be a Sith. Perhaps it was a little of both.  

Anyone have opinions on this?

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Was thinking about a different format for the "have you ever heard the legend of Darth Plagueis the Wise..." speech if it was converted to some sort of tacky Holonet ad.  I'm thinking it would say something like 'Sith Lord learns this one weird trick to create life and save the ones he cares about from dying.  Jedi hate him!'
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The Rule of Two is just a particularly direct version of the narrative device of killing off elder characters as soon as they impart their knowledge to the protagonist.
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One of my favorite Sith from the original KOTOR game is Yuthura Ban.  A major reason why I started a new playthrough of KOTOR recently is because I want to get some screencaps of her.
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I always get Moraband and Malachor mixed up so I looked them up today on Wookiepedia and it clarified that Moraband is just an alternate name for the Sith homeworld, whereas Malachor is a different and distinct planet, which, due to the events in Star Wars Rebels, I will think of as Maul's planet.  Malachor was also an important planet in the KOTOR game series, though.

Maybe sometime I'll take some screencaps of Moraband/Korriban and Malachor from TCW and Rebels.
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Does anyone know of any Sith-themed events?  For example, a Sith fic exchange or a con or something like that?  Doesn't have to be something that's going on currently.  Could be any past, current, or future event.  I'm just interested in collecting information about this, and maybe organizing a list of links or something at some point.
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So, after much consideration, I've decided to create a Sith comm for Dreamwidth.  Since I already mod the Pillowfort Sith comm, I just copied the rules I made for that comm here.  I don't see a lot of active Star Wars comms here on Dreamwidth, so I'm hoping that I can add something to that.  I've made this comm open membership.  Feel free to post anything relating to the Sith here, as long as it follows the rules I've outlined, which you can read in the comm's profile or in the first post for the comm.  I've reposted some content from my own blog below to get things started.

Also If you want to add tags, feel free to send me a request for that.
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